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<DIV>Hello Art,</DIV>
<DIV>Did your Jonagold receive Retain? The old strains of Jonagold
here did not color with proper crop load and I attributed it to the one third
rate of Retain applied. Retain was particularly effective here this year
preventing Mac drop so I am thinking it may have really imposed color drag on
Jonagold. Macs colored acceptably well this year even with Retain and Cortland
did very well.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ebmilburn@yahoo.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:34 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Apple-Crop] Jonagold</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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living and growing jonagold. The old original strain will never get color
this far south. The newer strains will be about like your original strains if we
are lucky enough to have some cooler nights and sunny days.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hi Art
<DIV> A contributing factor to problems with fruit color
this fall has been late arrival of minimum temperatures below 42F,
A "rule of thumb" from a Cornell bulletin is that optimum coloring conditions
require two days with low temperature below 42F, followed by a day with high
temperature over 68F AND over 80% sunlight on that day. </DIV>
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<DIV> The Ag-Radar estimate for Sanford 9 miles away
from you (far enough that I wish we had closer data site, working on that)
shows that the two days below 42F requirement was not met until September 26,
and Sept. 27 had a high temperature over 68F. But the requirement for a
day with high temperature over 68F AND over 80% sunshine was not met until
October 6.</DIV>
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<DIV> I don't see this formula as a powerful predictor, esp.
since I've seen some good color improvement while checking traps and doing
fall scab index over the past few weeks. And even if it was a
robust predictor, it wasn't based on Jonagold. Still it gives some
numbers to possibly help explain late coloring conditions this fall.</DIV>
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<DIV> Easy to suspect the drought as a contributing
factor. I'm also wondering if you used ReTain on these Jonagold.
If so, do you think that had any effect on coloring?</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1847345860gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 2:19 PM,
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<DIV>Why are my Jonagolds not coloring? Can this be an issue if they
have a heavy crop?</DIV>
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