<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hugh - please don’t hold back - tell us how you really feel - <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“...red outfit with a big logo on his chest with a yellow <b class="">CC.” - - </b><span class="">and don’t go giving away marketing ideas - make ‘em pay for them - </span><div class="">D</div><div class=""><insert smiley face></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Hugh Thomas <<a href="mailto:hughthomas44@gmail.com" class="">hughthomas44@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">First of all, "Cosmic Crisp" is a stupid name, no doubt, some committee consisting of 500 came up with it. Sounds like a pimpled-up teen-aged super-hero character from another planet who gets real flakey if you mess with him. And by the way, he has a red outfit with a big logo on his chest with a yellow <b class="">CC</b>. Secondly, it doesn't taste that good. I've tasted it two or three times. Third, I understand it's meant for Washington growers only, wherein WSU has a restriction. I not sure about this, but if true, I wonder if WSU gets any our federal taxes. Is so, and you want to grow it, contact your Senator. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:59 AM, maurice tougas <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:appleman.maurice@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">appleman.maurice@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">My understanding is that Cosmic Crisp will be an open variety in seven years.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Numbers we were quoted for "all in" establishment costs per acre was $60,000 on a large planting. No land acquisition costs. Land prep, trees, support, tractors, irrigation, machinery buildings and housing for H2A labor included. I do not know if overhead towards packing facility was factored in.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mo Tougas</div></div><div class="">Tougas Family Farm llc</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Craig J. Kahlke <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:cjk37@cornell.edu" target="_blank" class="">cjk37@cornell.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_8935825908007192918m_-8722058852024049469WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="">David,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="">Thanks for sharing this. When WA decides on something, it’s full speed ahead.
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