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<div>So Hugh, I hope it didn't taste "pimpled-up". Could you tell us what were the negatives and positives of your tasting experience?</div>
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<div>Thanks for a good laugh.</div>
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<div id="divRpF711835" style="direction: ltr;"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> apple-crop [apple-crop-bounces@virtualorchard.com] on behalf of Hugh Thomas [hughthomas44@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:15 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Apple-Crop] Cosmic Crisp<br>
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<div dir="ltr">First of all, "Cosmic Crisp" is a stupid name, no doubt, some committee consisting of 500 came up with it. Sounds like a pimpled-up teen-aged super-hero character from another planet who gets real flakey if you mess with him. And by the way,
he has a red outfit with a big logo on his chest with a yellow <b>CC</b>. Secondly, it doesn't taste that good. I've tasted it two or three times. Third, I understand it's meant for Washington growers only, wherein WSU has a restriction. I not sure about
this, but if true, I wonder if WSU gets any our federal taxes. Is so, and you want to grow it, contact your Senator. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:59 AM, maurice tougas <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">My understanding is that Cosmic Crisp will be an open variety in seven years.
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<div> Numbers we were quoted for "all in" establishment costs per acre was $60,000 on a large planting. No land acquisition costs. Land prep, trees, support, tractors, irrigation, machinery buildings and housing for H2A labor included. I do not know if overhead
towards packing facility was factored in.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Craig J. Kahlke <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">Thanks for sharing this. When WA decides on something, it’s full speed ahead.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> apple-crop [mailto:<a href="mailto:apple-crop-bounces@virtualorchard.com" target="_blank">apple-crop-bounces@vir<wbr>tualorchard.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 06, 2017 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Apple-Crop discussion list <<a href="mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com" target="_blank">apple-crop@virtualorchard.com</a><wbr>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Apple-Crop] Cosmic Crisp<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A good concise article on what Washington state growers are doing with Cosmic Crisp over the next two years - the figures are staggering - <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">David Doud - grower, IN - silver tip on early blooming varieties - </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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