<div dir="ltr">The bill has actually toned down very little. By far the biggest issue remains - that this makes registration decision based on how many emails a group can generate to legislators - not science.<div>The hobby beekeepers are well organized and most other commodity groups have supported this under the logic it doesn't have an immediate impact on them. Farm Bureau is trying to bring them around, but I don't have very high</div><div> hopes.   It would be helpful if the Fruit Growers and UMASS could weigh in on this with the legislature. Farm Bureau has been the lone voice opposing this bill. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Alex Dowse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dowse.orchards@gmail.com" target="_blank">dowse.orchards@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">It is populism at an increasingly dangerous rate.  Significant numbers of beekeepers (hobbyist)convinced a legislative member the world would end if this pesticide was allowed to be used around pollinators. The bill was toned down some but the precedence of legislating pesticide controls and bypassing established review and science testing will not bode well for the industry. Users and growers need to step up and step out to fight these issues before the choices are made for you <br><br><div id="m_4360148787006659153AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 21, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Daniel Cooley <<a href="mailto:dcooley@umass.edu" target="_blank">dcooley@umass.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I totally agree. This is an attempt to get the camel’s nose into the pesticide regulatory tent. As Mo, Brad and others have said, we have a system. We should use it.<div><br></div><div>Dan</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 18, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Franklyn Carlson <<a href="mailto:fcarlson@carlsonorchards.com" target="_blank">fcarlson@carlsonorchards.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="m_4360148787006659153WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Well spoken Mo.  These are very delicate topics as we deal with this type of thing often.  Clear heads must prevail.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Frank<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>mfgamembers [<a href="mailto:mfgamembers-bounces@virtualorchard.com" target="_blank">mailto:mfgamembers-bounces@<wbr>virtualorchard.com</a>]<span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephen Wood<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>maurice tougas <<a href="mailto:appleman.maurice@gmail.com" target="_blank">appleman.maurice@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>MFGA Members <<a href="mailto:mfgamembers@virtualorchard.com" target="_blank">mfgamembers@virtualorchard.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:brad@mfbf.net" target="_blank">brad@mfbf.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:brad@mfbf.net" target="_blank">brad@mfbf.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [mfgamembers] FYI: An Act to protect Massachusetts pollinators<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This isn't flying off the hook. Obviously, this doesn't affect us directly, but I entirely agree with Mo.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">S.W.<u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13pt">Stephen M. Wood, Farnum Hill Ciders/Poverty Lane Orchards, Lebanon, NH </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13pt">               <a href="tel:(603)%20252-5696" value="+16032525696" target="_blank">(603) 252-5696</a>    <a href="mailto:swood@farnumhillciders.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">swood@farnumhillciders.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from my iPad</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:51 PM, maurice tougas <<a href="mailto:appleman.maurice@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">appleman.maurice@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">PS<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You all know that I've been know to fly off the hook now and then. You been reminded!<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:49 PM, maurice tougas <<a href="mailto:appleman.maurice@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">appleman.maurice@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Jon<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My quick reading suggests to me that there is more to this than the text of the bill suggests. Looks to me that someone is attempting to lay groundwork for using the legislature to take over the role of the pesticide board in the registering of materials. In other words, make the approval process a political one rather than scientific one. There is a reason tjhat applicators are being exempted during the "blooming period" which happens to coincide with the growing season.The reason is to highlight the "bloom" for emotional purposes. Is there a use for neonics other than during the period of March 1 to October 31? Maybe there is? Since nursery plants are excluded then greenhouse plants are as well excluded?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Wouldn't simply making them restricted use accomplish all that the bill is suggesting, with the scientific review process that the pesticide subcommittee, which is chaired by public health and not MDAR, being the logical and credible body making this decision? I think this is an attempt to circumvent the scientific process to be supplanted by the political process. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Just my two cents, and you didn't even pay that! <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mo<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Jon Clements <<a href="mailto:jmcextman@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jmcextman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://malegislature.gov/Bills/190/H4041" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://malegislature.gov/<wbr>Bills/190/H4041</a><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Does anyone have any concerns/issues with this? (Besides being another regulation.)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The way I read it, pretty minimal impact to most apple/peach growers unless you are NOT a certified applicator. In summary, it means:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom:0in"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">During and after blooming season, neonicotinoids “shall only be sprayed, 38 released, deposited or applied by a certified commercial applicator, a certified private applicator, 39 or a licensed applicator.”<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Blooming season is defined as: “the period of the calendar year during which blooming or flowering plants are actively blooming, which shall include, at a minimum, the period between March 1 and October 31, provided, that the department may increase the period of time by regulation.”<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">During bloom time, neonicotinoids may be applied (by the above listed groups) only for agricultural and horticultural uses as defined by Chapter 61A.<u></u><u></u></li></ol></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Agricultural use defined here:<span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleIX/Chapter61A/Section1" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://malegislature.<wbr>gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/<wbr>TitleIX/Chapter61A/Section1</a><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Horticultural use defined here:<span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleIX/Chapter61A/Section2" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://malegislature.<wbr>gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/<wbr>TitleIX/Chapter61A/Section2</a><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>.<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="m_4360148787006659153m396480728464246589hoenzb"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">--</span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">JMCEXTMAN (aka Jon Clements)<br><a href="tel:(413)%20478-7219" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">413.478.7219</a><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>Verizon</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><a href="tel:(413)%20378-3068" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">413.378.3068</a><span class="m_4360148787006659153Apple-converted-space"> </span>Project Fi<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">UMass Cold Spring Orchard<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=393+Sabin+StreetBelchertown,+MA%C2%A0+01007&entry=gmail&source=g">393 Sabin Street</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=393+Sabin+StreetBelchertown,+MA%C2%A0+01007&entry=gmail&source=g">Belchertown, MA</a>  <a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=393+Sabin+StreetBelchertown,+MA%C2%A0+01007&entry=gmail&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